Recently, I talked about how I have switched my Roth IRA from the insurance company to my brokerage account. I started doing some research on where I was going to invest things, and came to the conclusion that I would be investing all of it in Vanguard Exchange Traded Funds after doing some math. The Vanguard ETFs have the lowest expense rations, even lower than their mutual funds, and offer a reasonably diverse portfolio.
There is only one problem, and that is brokerage fees. When I started calculating if ETFs or Mutual Funds would be better, ETFs won out easily for large investments, but with the smaller investments (like $1000 or less), if I had to figure in the brokerage fee, the mutual funds came out ahead. There weren’t huge differences, but because this money is going to be invested for 25 or more years, I wanted to ensure that I would lose as little as possible to expenses and fees.
So, I’ve been taking some time to find out the best place to put my Roth IRA (I’m moving it again I think – I only have so many free trades with my current broker).
I’ve been debating opening the Roth IRA at Zecco.com because there are free trades. I’m just not sure it’s going to make sense though. There appears to be a fee charged on Roth IRA accounts from what I can tell, and I might need to do a bit more research before I consider this option. The fee is likely to eat into my savings one way or another.
I’ve also been looking at opening up a Vanguard account directly because, at least right now, I think I’m going to stick only to Vanguard funds. This might change in the future, when I may want to diversify, but for now, after reading The Four Pillars of Investing: Lessons for Building a Winning Portfolio, I think I’ll stick with Vanguard Index funds. But because I don’t have a large amount of money, I’m going to be hit with fees again. Even if I stick with mutual funds here, unless I have $3000 in each fund, there is another fee I’ll be charged at Vanguard.
It seems the more I learn, I find there is even more to learn. Investing can seem very straightforward one second, and then incredibly complex the next. In the end, it’s just a matter of sitting down, figuring out all of your costs and fees, properly diversifying, determining your acceptable level of risk, and then generally just letting your money sit and earn until you need it.
I feel like I’m back to square one today. I had convinced myself that my Ameritrade was not the best option here, and I might still be right, but the other two options that seemed to be better have more going on than I expected. I’m going to be taking some more time to do the math today, and if I discover anything else interesting, I’ll post it. In the meantime, my Roth is at least making something in the money market account, but it’s not going to make as much as I want if I let it sit there very long.
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For me, I’d say “Yes”. Just having a Roth IRA got me started in the right direction by beginning to invest outside my 401K.
My Roth IRA was with an insurance company. You may be wondering why I had one there. In the past, sometimes I had a hard time motivating myself to do the right thing. Going through the process of opening one up seemed like a lot of work at the time. I didn’t take the initiative to do it myself. When my insurance agent called me and asked me to come in to go over new guidelines on my insurance, he also mentioned Roth IRAs to me.
I knew I should have one. So when he said he would take care of everything, I figured why not. It was easier than filling out the paperwork and managing it myself. I knew that this would result in higher fees, but since I had not set one up before, and I knew that it was something I needed to do, I went ahead and did it.
I don’t regret that I set it up. If my agent hadn’t talked me into it, I might not have done it for years. I do regret that I didn’t personally manage it. But back then I wouldn’t have known what to do, and I had other priorities in my life. Now I am much more educated on investing, and my priorities are in the right place.
Over the past year I’ve been reading and learning about how to properly invest and manage my money. Today, the transfer from the insurance company cleared and I’m in a position to manage my own Roth IRA.
If I had left it at the insurance company, it would have been alright, but the fees would have been higher than they needed to be, and that would have eaten into my savings.
But at least I would have had savings.
My goal for this week is to take some time and figure out what I’m going to invest it in. Because it’s long term, it needs to be in mutual funds or ETFs, but I want to make sure I have a healthy mix of funds (stocks and bonds, foreign and domestic).
By SaturdayThis upcoming week, I’ll report back what I decided to invest my Roth in and why.